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by **webmasterp** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:32 am

[2009 Giencke.net FF]

Coming off a, we'll say memorable, 2008 FF season, I've finally got the 6th annual Sex & Beer FF league set up. League settings are below (which are identical to last year's), aiming for at least a 10-person league this year.

League Name Sex & Beer
Password ASK
League Type Custom
Draft Type Live Online Draft
Draft Time Thu Aug 27 8:00pm PDT (tentative)
League ID: 356813
League URL: http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/heypaddy
Trade Tracker: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key= ... 2UlE&hl=en
Buy-in: $25 (paypal to giencke izzat gmail.com)
Historical Teams, Results, etc: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key= ... laMfQuVEIw (not yet updated)
Proposed Scoring Settings

Passing Touchdowns 6 Points
Interceptions -2 Points
Passing Yards 40 Yards = 1 Point (was 25/point)
Rushing Touchdowns 6 Points
Rushing Yards 20 Yards = 1 Point
Reception Touchdowns 6 Points
Receptions .20 Points
Reception Yards 25/point
Return Touchdowns 6 Points
Offensive Fumble Return TD 6 Points
2-Point Conversions 2 Points
Fumbles Lost -2 Points
Field Goals 0-19 Yards 3 Points
Field Goals 20-29 Yards 3 Points
Field Goals 30-39 Yards 3 Points
Field Goals 40-49 Yards 4 Points
Field Goals 50+ Yards 5 Points
Point After Attempt Made 1 Points
Points Allowed 0 points 10 Points
Points Allowed 1-6 points 7 Points
Points Allowed 7-13 points 4 Points
Points Allowed 14-20 points 1 Points
Points Allowed 21-27 points 0 Points
Points Allowed 28-34 points -1 Points
Points Allowed 35+ points -4 Points
Sack 1 Points
Interception 2 Points
Fumble Recovery 2 Points
Touchdown 6 Points
Safety 2 Points
Block Kick 2 Points

Proposed Scoring Settings
3rd - 1X money
2d - 2X money
1st - Everything else

[2008 Giencke.net FF]

The Winners: Bob (1), Paul (2), Justin (3)

Manager of the Year (MOTY): ?

The Banter: http://giencke.net/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=3266 (51(!) pages worth)

League URL: http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com ... paddy/2008

[2007 Giencke.net FF]

The Winners: Paul (1), Joe (2), Adam (3)

Manager of the Year (MOTY): Adam viewtopic.php?t=3004

The Banter: viewtopic.php?t=3004

League URL: http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nfl/2007/3896

[2006 Giencke.net FF]

The Winners: DJ (1), Brodie (2), Pete (3)

Manager of the Year (MOTY): DJ viewtopic.php?t=2839

The Banter: viewtopic.php?t=2495

[2005 Giencke.net FF]

The Winners: Rocke (1), Nick (2), DJ (3)

Manager of the Year (MOTY): TJ viewtopic.php?t=2254

The Banter: viewtopic.php?t=2028

[2004 Giencke.net FF]

The Winners: Nick (1), TJ (2), Paul (3)

Manager of the Year (MOTY): TJ

The Banter: viewtopic.php?t=1335

by **webmasterp** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:37 am

New features this year, from Yahoo! Sports (love the free live tracker now)

Updated StatTracker® App with Live Scoring

* Follow the action with our new and improved live stats application
* Discuss the latest plays and talk trash in real-time
* You Talked. We Listened. We've improved StatTracker® and made it free

Custom Schedules

* Set weekly matchups for your Head-to-Head league
* Create a balanced division-weighted schedule
* Step up the competition by choosing a Rivalry Week

by **TJ2000** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:46 am

There are a few rule updates I think we should make.

The first suggestion would be to lower the trade veto window to one day

Webmasterp wrote:
Unit5302 wrote: It obviously hurts my chances, but do it. The 2 day waiting period for trades should be reduced to 1 day anyway. I think waivers should drop to 1 day as well.

I've been waiting 2.5 fucking days on Hamster to approve or reject an offer I made him. It's pretty infuriating, really.

For next year, I'd move that we accept Kell's suggestion(s), and correspondingly make the required votes required veto -1.

The second suggestion would be to iron out the points per yard discrepancy between RB's and WR's.

TJ2000 wrote:With the way our scoring is set up, its easy to corner the market on valuable free agents. Quarterbacks are high producing players in our league, mainly due to 6pt td passes. Its just not valuable to "hoard" qb's when you can only play 1 per game, and generally any qb will do.

Its not valuable to "hoard" wide receivers in our league either; they don't earn as many points as a running back, and there are more wr's to go around. If you pick up 5 wr's on your bench in hopes of dominating the market, you're probably not going to end up on top.

Points-wise, a single running back can be worth 2 wide receivers. Its much easier to predict rushing touchdowns than pass touchdowns when looking at an upcoming game. Also, running backs accumulate yardage points at a faster rate than receivers in our league. This leads to the hoarding of running backs being a valuable strategy, one that Paul picked up on early, much to the chagrin of most of the other owners.

I can think of two strategies to follow in order to prevent this from happening in the future. The first is to even out the point system. I don't want to get into specifics, as we can iron out the details later, but yardage points should either be the same for RB's and WR's, or the WR should get a point for fewer yards than the RB. That would make RB's less valuable and less of an exclusive trade commodity.

The other suggestion I have, and I don't know if this is possible on Yahoo, would be to have roster moves on Sundays and Mondays protected by the waiver system. It really sucks when your star running back goes down and you can't even pick up his backup because you're out of town that weekend and someone beat you to him. That would eliminate people getting pissed off at each other for waking up early on Monday morning to grab players.

All in all, I don't see anything that Paul did as being "wrong" or "shady". He played within the confines of the rules, and paid attention to details that mattered. If you guys cared that much, you would have woken your asses up at 4am or whatever to beat him to the punch. I, however, had more important things on my plate (like sleep)

Suggestion 3 would be to devalue QB touchdowns, maybe dropping it down to 4 per TD pass like most other leagues.

My final suggestion would be to lump defense and special teams back together, as it adds a bit of strategy to your defensive choice for the week, as well as increasing the quantity of serviceable D's on the market.

Thoughts?

ps: free stat tracker == awesome

by **webmasterp** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:36 pm

Kell wrote:I won't be partaking this year.

I sent you an invite anyway, just in case you change your mind (I think we'd all like to have you back, despite last year's drama).

by **webmasterp** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:48 pm

TJ2000 wrote:There are a few rule updates I think we should make.

The first suggestion would be to lower the trade veto window to one day

That sounds good to me.

TJ2000 wrote:
The second suggestion would be to iron out the points per yard discrepancy between RB's and WR's.
...
Thoughts?

I spent some time going over the numbers for the WR/RB/QBs, and think a scoring system closer to Yahoo! default would be the best course of action. The proposed settings:

Passing Yards, 25 yards per point
Passing Touchdowns, 4
Interceptions, -1
Rushing Yards, 10 yards per point
Rushing Touchdowns, 6
Receptions, .20
Reception Yards, 10 yards per point
Reception Touchdowns, 6
Return Touchdowns, 6
2-Point Conversions, 2
Fumbles Lost, -2
Offensive Fumble Return TD, 6

TJ2000 wrote:...
My final suggestion would be to lump defense and special teams back together, as it adds a bit of strategy to your defensive choice for the week, as well as increasing the quantity of serviceable D's on the market.

This one kind of worries me a bit. Including extra special teams (ST) stats (e.g. yards, TDs) would overly-reward good defenses, many of which already regularly score 10+ points. Given that the feedback so far has been to reduce the relative impact of the QB, the added weight of the defense (which is often just a roll of the dice) could/would introduce a lot more randomness into matchups, which would be pretty frustrating I think.

TJ2000 wrote:ps: free stat tracker == awesome

Huge!

by **webmasterp** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:49 pm

Also, I've added an IR spot, what do people think? (I'm not sold on it, but am open to discussion).

by **Kizzy** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:23 pm

I think I may join in this year.

by **A-Dilla** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:59 pm

by **webmasterp** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:28 pm

We've got 4 so far. DJ, Tom, Paul, where you at?

by **B-Train** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:56 am

Bring it on!

by **Mr. B** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:27 am

webmasterp wrote:We've got 4 so far. DJ, Tom, Paul, where you at?

Tom and I have already said yes.

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